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Copyright ©2007, Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤ $

Just another lake shot in B/W.

Photographer: Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤ $
Folder: ES Miscellaneous
Uploaded: 2007-Jan-25 13:48 EST
Current Rating: 9.33/6 (Weighted rating: 8.80)
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Camera: Olympus E-1
Lens: Olympus 14-54mm f2.8/3.5
Lens Adapter: None
ISO: 100
Aperture: f/3.2
Shutter Speed: 1/80
Focal Length: 14mm
Flash: No
Tripod/Monopod: No
Critique Level: Dead Honest Critique

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Not another lake shot...


The sharpness of the FG is great and the DOF is very interesting. It deceives my eyes and the softness of the waters almost makes me wonder about composite pics. But then I look at the shutterspeed and it makes sense ;)

The texture of the wood planks is great!

And your favorite subject keeps delivering you the goods :-)


Ricardo Lamego ¤ ¤ at 14:11 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


looks like a composite w the girl and the pier in 1 image, the rest, another; thought the FG w the girl is awesome ;-))

dee vee HoF Win ¤ $1 at 14:17 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


Very nice high contrast image. I see whar dee vee means about two images. Pleasein color you have chosen to tone the image with.


E. Edwin Ennor ~ (Eģ) HoF Win ¤ $1 at 15:26 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


What an amaizing picture. Very well taken :-)

nicholas pye Win ¤ $1 at 16:07 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


the composition is just perfect Elisabeth; the young child lying on the platform, the high contrasted water and sky, all elements are there in a perfectly harmonious setting. Firts class conversion.

vaggelis fragiadakis HoF Win ¤ $1 $ at 16:56 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


The foreground is really special indeed, not only the planks, but also the girlīs hair. I also think this composition works very well. Pleasing to my eyes.

Wiliam Wagenaar ¤ $1 at 17:48 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


this really is lovely - like looking through a window. The foreground textures are superb, and the composition is absolutely right.

nigel harvey ¤1 at 18:06 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


Ricardo, dee ve, Edwin, Nicholas, Vaggelis, Wiliam, and Nigel--thanks so much for your comments. Really glad you like it. It's not a composite, but I see how one could get that impression with the relative softness of the water. One of these days I need to lug my tripod down to the pier to experiment with some other settings (e.g., smaller apertures, slower shutter speeds, maybe even some judicious use of my flash). Anyway, thanks again for the nice words.

Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤1 $ at 20:04 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


While ordinarily not a b&W fan, it has it's moments when it comes through for me. Or should I say, my imagination.

I have long believed that b&W stimulates the imagination by leaving colors open to interpretation. Just like listening to old radio shows - ("The Shadow knows....") - stimulates the imagination to fill in the entire scene.

Here, a young girl is studing a view. Developmentally she is at an age where, at least nonverbally, she is aware that the scene has a pleasant effect on her, a mood effect, the beginning of the appreciation of beauty and an awareness of newly developing feelings. Perhaps I am overstating the obvious, and for that I apologize, but to me this is a very colorful b&w picture.

Your title is also a winner!

Tom D ¤1 at 20:40 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


Thank you, Tom. I really enjoyed reading your take on this. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly about B/W and the way it lets one "read" and experience an image in a way altogether different from color. And I also am touched by your description of the scene--very nicely put. Thanks for taking the time to write such detailed comments!

Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤1 $ at 22:51 EST on 2007-Jan-25 [Reply]


I bought a B&W special issue, which I enjoy a lot, but I like this more than any of the Golden Award photos there.

1 at 01:42 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


I knew this was your work before i looked at the name. Your daughter and that dock you use to take fantastic pictures! Enjoying alot of your work keep it up!

Thorin Croll ¤1 at 03:27 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


the picture have some wonderfull simplicity and angle that you choose is great...all look great except maybe the far bg because i think of its sharpnes and contrast draw too much attention...but dont get me serious ...this is just how thoughts coming looking at this really nice picture...

denis grzetic HoF Win ¤1 at 05:17 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


Lovelly compo and detail on first plan. Great shot

Pedro Afonso HoF ¤1 at 08:49 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


Allmost missed this, a lovely view. The wooden structure workes well with this conversion. You must have made more pictures of this scene, show us please.

theo keijzers HoF ¤ ¤1 at 09:41 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


HJ, I would suggest you might need some reading glasses, lol, but that is very kind of you to say. ;-)

Thorin, thanks, too. Hope no one is too sick of seeing either the dock or my daughter. They are two of my favorite subjects.

Denis, thanks for your kind words, and I understand what you are saying about the far background. In fact, I thought first of a crop that didn't include the horizon, but it didn't work out for me. Always appreciate your comments, and I must experiment with a different approach on that part of the photo.

Pedro, thank you, too.

And Theo, glad you like this. I posted another photo from this same evening quite some time ago:

Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤1 $ at 11:27 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


I keep coming back to this Elisabeth. Who is the audience? The photographer watching the child or the scenery watching the child, or the child watching everything? My take on your title is you are the audience, watching the child grow. How can you not be smiling? I love the angle on the dock, the light dancing across the water and the clouds. Great image. It brings me right into the heart of a summer evening.

Kathy Kempson ¤1 at 11:56 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


Well, Kathy, your comment just made me get goosebumps (and even a bit misty-eyed). When I thought of the title, I was thinking primarily of my daughter watching the stage set before her. Yet I also felt an element of the sky watching her in return, of the water lapping towards her as if speaking to her, and you point out the same thing in your comment. But I never once took into account the 3rd possibility of ME being an audience, and of course I am (probably more so than the other 2, lol) and the fact that the pier itself looks like a stage makes that idea work even better. You've just made my day, Kathy. As much as I labor over each of my photos and think I've extracted from them all of my possible reactions/feelings, I'm always amazed when someone can point out something new that let me see things in a whole new way. Thank you, Kathy.

Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤1 $ at 13:07 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]

No hesitation - 10

Arriving late but better than never, Elisabeth. Plenty has been said already about this awesome picture. Again, one that could be a movie poster or a novel cover (perhaps a Stephen King). I won't go on about the interpretation of the picture which has been done so well in different ways above. But I would like to say some things about the compo (and processing) as compo, IMO, is one of the best ways to assert one's stamp of creativity on a scene that many different people view.

What I really like about this compo: the 'V' of your daughter's legs echoing the 'V' of the wharf deck and the way the apexes are slightly offset; the light on your daughter's left side and soles, opposing the light in the sky and water reflections (her soles even form a parabolic reflector to bat the light back to the sun!); the soft luminosity of the FG against ther harder backlighting; the tension of the axis of your daughter's body and the wharf deck NOT leading to the sunlight (that would be an obvious device here); the focal point is definitely your daughter (and what she may be thinking) and the foveal point for me is her luminous feet.

For me, the brights in the sky are on the threshold and I'd be tempted to paste a little bit of texture here and there to reign them in. But that is such a minor niggle that pales against the positives of this image. It's a truly special one - especially to a mother, I would imagine - and moreso to a mother who conceived of the image and executed it. Really, one to treasure, Elisabeth.

Rob Smith HoF Win ¤ $1 at 18:39 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]

Yeah, right!

LOL. I just noticed your post comment "Just another lake shot in B/W" Sure!

Rob Smith HoF Win ¤ $1 at 18:42 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


Rob, what a pleasant surprise to see your comments. I think you are a bit too kind, but thanks anyway. I very much appreciate your comments on some of the compositional elements, and had to smile because they overlap very much with my own thoughts. (Sometimes I think I'm kind of weird when it comes to the little things that draw me to a certain scene/image. That may still be the case--there could just be 2 of us, lol.) My favorite detail happens to be her feet, though I never thought of them as a reflector--interesting observation. I also liked the division into dark and light segments (sort of a yin-yang feeling for me with the light on the left, darker water/sky on the right). I tried to keep things from looking too symmetrical/lined up with those apexes; glad that works for you, too. And you have a valid point about the sky. Might be tempted to play with it a bit more. Thank you so much for your thoughtful analysis, Rob. Sometimes I wonder if photos that are very personal to me will be of any interest at all to anyone else, so it's been nice to hear everyone's positive comments on this one. I do tend to let photos like this sit for many weeks or months to try to get a more objective feel for them before I post. (This one's been sitting since July ;-)).

Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤1 $ at 19:26 EST on 2007-Jan-26 [Reply]


Coming late to the party but I wanted to say I like this very much Elisabeth. I resonate with everything that Denis and Kathy have said so wont repeat here. I do want to say though that this is definitely not just another lake shot! It's a whole lot better than that. Kathy's comments really punch home for me. A wonderful witness shot of the kind I like very much.

Eugene Donohoe HoF Win ¤1 $ at 08:08 EST on 2007-Jan-28 [Reply]


Hi, Eugene. It's always nice to get a comment from you, and I'm very glad you like it. Thank you.

Elisabeth Spector HoF Win ¤1 $ at 13:06 EST on 2007-Jan-28 [Reply]